RMIUG Meeting Minutes - Measuring and Monitoring
WeInternet System Administration Panel
The fifth meeting of the Rocky Mountain
Internet User's Group was June 14th, 1994.
About 80 people were in attendance on a
nice, warm evening. Dan Murray MC'ed the
Some general administrivia issues and
announcements of interest.
Our featured speaker this evening was actually
a panel. Chris Fedde from US West (email@example.com)
had suggested previousely to the "Executive
Committee" that a Network/Sysadmin panel might
be interesting. The RMIUG Executives (acting
as good executives) agreed ... and said set
it up! Chris did a great job, and we'd encourage
future suggestions; and we *are* willing to
do some legwork if you don't have the time.
- About half of the people in attendance
were not on the Email list. Dan passed
around a sign-up sheet, and about 25 people
added their Email addresses to get signed
up - we currently have about 350 people
signed up on RMIUG. Note that an Email
to firstname.lastname@example.org generates an
auto-reply with info about the RMIUG.
- Dan mentioned an offer to RMIUG members
from Capella Rocky Mountain for discounted
modems. They're having a special offer
for RMIUG members through July 1st on
the Telebit Qblazer+ ($155), the US Robotics
Sportsters ($125/$130), and a Livingston
Portmaster communications server. For
more information, send electronic mail
to email@example.com or
call their office at 303-440-0513.
- Will Clurman (firstname.lastname@example.org)
gave a short discussion about the recent
Mecklermedia Spring Internet World 94
Conference. They have three upcoming shows
about the Internet: San Jose in May, Wash
D.C. in Dec, and London in Feb/Mar. We
will be "passing the hat" at our next
meeting so Alek can attend the last show
... ;-) BTW, MecklerMedia is looking for
speakers - see Will for more info.
Will commented that many of the attendees
were business people, who where asking
"what type of solutions are there for
my business" and "where is the Internet
going" in response to all the press
about the "Information SuperHighway"
(did I really say that!)
Will also mentioned Commerce Net,
and attempt by many of the large Silicon
Valley firms to setup a network to conduct
business on, complete with RSA security
(membership is $20,000 though!) He also
mentioned that the Internic may lose
their government funding, as more of
this is turned over to the private sector.
Overall, although some of the presentations
were a bit salesey and the product offerings
vaporware (one vendor had empty (!)
boxes on display), it was an interesting
and worthwhile conference.
- Trisha Litz (email@example.com)
mentioned that Martin Marietta was looking
for a UNIX Sysadmin and to contact Cheryl
at firstname.lastname@example.org for more information.
- Bill Wilt (email@example.com)
from Albuquerque made a short presentation
about the future of the press, media,
and information in a digital age. He passed
out copies of the "Wilt Letter - how to
flourish in a digital world" which has
a variety of interesting commentary.
Our panel was composed of Evi Nemeth of
John Matthews of US West (firstname.lastname@example.org),
Randy Holt of Intergraph (email@example.com)
and Trent Hein of XOR Network Engineering
(firstname.lastname@example.org). All have been involved
in the Network/Sysadmin business for quite
some time, and they brought a wealth of
There were many issues discussed, too
numerous to list here (plus Alek's fingers
are getting tired!). The discussion was
quite lively at times, and sometimes got
quite technical. There were even a few lawyers
in the audience who were brave enough to
speak out and put forth some of the legal
issues of things such as reading Email,
Legal aspects of reading other people's
files and Emails got lots of discussion;
the panel's recommendation was just "don't
read it", but they agreed this can get "sticky"
when the Mucky-Mucks (management) get involved.
There was some discussion about Firewalls:
one approach is a packet-filtering one with
an "open" network behind it ... but a better
approach seems to be a "policy based" one
where machines are tight throughout, but
this is more work.
There was a fair amount of discussion
about different connectivity options (dumb
terminal, UUCP, SLIP, etc. and phone, cable,
fiber, etc.). An RMIUG member recently volunteered
to put together a table summarizing the
offerings from the various vendors; we'll
let you know when that becomes available.
The panelists agreed that the Network/Sysadmin
job is somewhat thankless, but they did
enjoy what they did; interfacing with different
parts of the company and playing with the
latest toys (oops, I meant computers). But
one also needs to be very self-motivated,
and it's not a job for everyone.
The next RMIUG meeting is scheduled for
Tuesday, July 12th. We will have Neal McBurnett
to us about the Boulder Community Network,
which is an effort to get the community
of Boulder "online" and provide public kiosks
for access to everyone.
Dr. Michael Schwartz (email@example.com)
is scheduled to talk to us about about Internet
Resource Discovery (how do I find something?!?)
at our August 9th meeting, and a session
on Privacy, Encryption, PGP, Clipper Chip,
etc. is in the works.
Suggestions/comments/feedback are always
welcome - pls Email these to firstname.lastname@example.org
or call Dan Murray at 447-3475.