RMIUG Meeting Minutes - The Future of Publishing
The tenth meeting of the Rocky Mountain Internet User's Group was held November
8, 1994. 80+ people were in attendance,
and Alek Komarnitsky MC'ed the meeting.
General administrivia issues and announcements
of interest were presented. Dan awarded
Alek (who has been to every meeting - even
the first organizational meeting!) a "Roadkill
on the information super-highway" button
along with a box of Chips Ahoy cookies (Alek
is a big munchie fan) After the award ceremony,
Dan went on to discuss the future of RMIUG.
- RMIUG is currently working quite
- We're a "Readers Digest" user group
- a general, broad wide-interest user
group, trying to touch on things that
are interesting. Not every meeting
may be interesting to you, but 1 out
of 3 should be.
- Keep members informed with mailing
lists and online presence. We would
like to get more feedback from members.
We will be posting a new feedback/survey
form on our Web site soon. People
can also send mail to email@example.com
- We should have a "User-fest" every
6 to 12 months to let our users talk
about things they're interested in.
- The NCAR location - we may lose
this room, but we'll find something
else if that happens (or we may have
to pay for the room). If you know
of a nice meeting location for 200-300
people, please let us know. The meetings
will stay in Boulder.
- We are going to maintain a list
of Internet User Groups worldwide.
- There may be some changes to the
Home Page in the new future, possible
changes and additions to the library,
and we plan on giving users a broad
agenda of possible upcoming topics.
Our feature talk was presented by Curt Stevens
and Mark Timpe of Knight Ridder Information
Labs. The talk was entitled "The Future of
Publishing & Newspapers in an Increasingly
- Next, Will Clurman talked about the
Logo contest. RMIUG is trying to get a
logo for press releases and other stuff.
There are several entries. We'll vote
on the best logo at our next meeting,
so get your entries in before then. Fax
entries to 440-3677 (or call 440-0402
to talk to Will).
- A review of the Aspen Internet Festival
was given by Dan Pacheco (firstname.lastname@example.org)
of the Denver Post with comments from
other members of the audience:
The Festival was held in Aspen from
October 14-16. There was not a lot of
technical knowledge given there. It
was more of an effort to "get Aspen
online". Several Web servers were demoed
(demoing Mosaic got old rather quickly).
Guy Cook had a few interesting things
to say: "The Denver/Boulder area has
more connections per capita than Silicon
Valley". He also claimed Colorado as
the "cyber-capital of the world". In
general, it was a meeting of the minds
between different entities on the net.
Not a lot was said, but a lot was asked.
Everyone wants to know how to manipulate
the Internet pie to get a piece for
themselves. Too many people attended,
and some were unfortunately turned away.
Several members of the audience thought
that it was billed as something that
it wasn't. There was way too much emphasis
on the beginners, and not much content.
Some of the more "advanced" programs
contained technical inaccuracies. It
was worth the $20, but not more. Aspen
was nice to visit though, making the
$20 spent more palatable.
- CU will host the Colorado N.I.I. Summit
which will take place on Dec 5, 1994.
Featured speakers include U.S. Senators
Hank Brown and Ben Nighthorse Campbell,
John Malone, TCI, Richard McCormick, US
West, and John Barlow, Electronic Frontier
Foundation. There is complete information
online at the URL http://www.cs.colorado.edu/home/mcbryan/cnii/brochure.html.
You can register online from that location.
- There's a 14-part educational, business
series on the Internet being produced
for cable-TV's Mind Extension University.
We are interested in highlighting 6-10
businesses located anywhere from Fort
Collins to Castle Rock that are using
the Internet for business purposes. This
can include anything from doing research
on the 'Net to having an electronic storefront.
Please contact Scott Schumaker (email@example.com).
- firstname.lastname@example.org announced
an Internet Chamber of Commerce meeting
to be held on Tuesday, 12/6 at 7pm at
the Westminster Ramada.
Everyone thinks that newspapers are dying,
including some publishers. Many think/thought
that "no one needs to read anymore, because
they can get it on the TV." Many view it
as inevitable that papers will disappear.
People want a personal newspaper - dealing
with subjects that you're interested in.
But.. research shows that reality is much
different. We don't have the time to take
on the roll of our own personal editor,
and we don't want to read our papers on
monitors. Most people are hungry for more
news, but when they get it, there's too
much. A paper that gives you only what you
want won't provide you with outside information
that may also be affecting you.
There are three models for information
- Very passive and linear. Interactive
TV so far has not been successful.
- Everyone thought that we'd have the
paperless office. Why haven't we seen
it? People need to scribble, make it portable,
and are comfortable reading in that format.
Also, you don't need a manual to read
- Portable and shaped in the way we're
used to reading things.
So, let's use flat panel with ink on paper
resolution (150dpi); wireless; portable.
Curt says "If you can't take it to the can,
it ain't gonna work." There are lots of
different ideas about mechanisms to get
the information. One would be to a local
paper from a vending machine via a PCMCIA
type card. Slides were shown with pages
demoing what a flat panel newspaper might
look like. It has a sidebar navigator and
is touch sensitive with a stylus. There
is value added to the newspaper - you're
able to give additional background information
on stories that you wouldn't normally get.
It has index pages, with articles that you've
read checked off. There's a personal summary
page which filters from the newspaper the
things that you are personally interested
Ads become dimensional with possible interaction.
Some people envision no ads, but that's
really part of the information supplied
in the paper (classifieds, coupons, new
Knight Ridder is doing software, not hardware.
They will conform to whatever communications/hardware
ends up being the de-facto standard. They
plan on encompassing not only newspapers,
but all document-type media. However, the
navigational system will stay the same to
All in all, it was a very interesting
and well-presented presentation about the
possible future of our newspaper industry!
This was definitely one of the best presentations
that we've had.
There are, as of yet, no papers about
Curt and Mark's current research. However,
Curt's other research papers are available
from his WWW home page: http://www.cs.colorado.edu/homes/stevens/public_html/Home.html.
Curt's thesis work can be ftp'ed from ftp.cs.colorado.edu:pub/misc/stevens/*.ps
RMIUG wishes to thank Internet One of
Boulder for sponsoring the refreshments,
NCAR for the use of their meeting room,
and XOR Network Engineering for electronic
Suggestions/comments/feedback are always
welcome - please email these to email@example.com,
or call Dan Murray at 447-3475.
RMIUG "Executive" Committee, firstname.lastname@example.org
RMIUG Librarians (Joe Betts & Bo the Bohemian),
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