RMIUG Meeting Minutes - Sam Cassidy, Lt.
Governor of the State of Colorado
Urgent call for action! Please be sure
to see the very end of these minutes. We
need the help of every RMIUG'er. Please
make your voice heard.
The 11th meeting of the Rocky Mountain
Internet User's Group was held December
13th, 1994. ~110 people were in attendance
with Dan Murray (firstname.lastname@example.org) MC'ing
General administrivia issues and announcements
of interest were presented.
- Dan & Will Clurman (email@example.com)
are putting together a list of Internet
User Groups (around the world) that will
be made available at rmiug.org
- NCAR has confirmed that RMIUG will
have the room at the same time for 1995;
second Tuesday of each month @ 7:00. RMIUG
appreciates NCAR allowing RMIUG to use
the room. We understand that there will
be a slight fee for the room, and we may
end up passing the hat at the meeting
(if everyone kicks in a quarter, we should
be good to go).
As an aside, both Dan & Alek Komarnitsky
(firstname.lastname@example.org) mentioned that
the Executive Committee really does
not want to collect dues; we feel that
RMIUG should be a free community service,
and we hope to keep it that way.
- Dennis Martin (Dennis_Martin@stortek.com)
mentioned that the Rocky Mountain Windows
NT User Group (RMWNTUG) has a Special
Interest Group (SIG) for Windows NT and
the Internet. For more information contact:
- Will Clurman talked about the Logo
contest and asked people to cast their
votes outside of the room. There were
two entries that got the vast majority
of the votes, and it came down to an RMIUG
"exec" who cast the deciding vote. Interestingly
enough, he was torn between the same two
entries, and suggested they were each
appropriate for two different things.
At the January meeting Will plans to announce
the results of the contest. RMIUG thanks
all who submitted logos.
- Alek gave a brief review of the Colorodo
National Information Infrastructure (NII)
Summit held on the CU-Boulder campus on
Monday, December 5th. It was a major sellout;
many people were turned away and about
700 showed up - overflow seating was in
the Events Center via TV.
Overall, CU did a great job putting
this together given the number of people
that showed up and the $15 cost ...
except too much introductions and introducing
of introducers! ;-)
A number of VIP's talked, and although
it was overall interesting, it was also
somewhat disappointing, since it seemed
difficult to get "concrete" information
beyond stuff such as Colorado will be
the Center for Telecomm, etc.
Wally Wedel (email@example.com)
posted a summary of the conference to
rmiug-discuss, so I'll defer further
discussion here (my summary was a bit
more politically incorrect also).
Our keynote speaker was Colorado
Lieutenant Governor Samuel H. (Sam) Cassidy
(firstname.lastname@example.org) who has has been
a leader on telecommunication issues in
the state of Colorado since his days in
the State Legislature. His background is
in law, specifically real estate and business
He was elected to the State Senate in
1990 and became the Senate Minority Leader
in 1993. He represented Senate District
6, covering most of the southwestern counties
in the state. His legislative focus covers
issues such as service-oriented government,
quality education and balanced growth, along
with working on formulating a state telecommunications
policy. Sam envisions residents of some
of the more remote parts of Colorado, such
as his own mountain community Pagosa Springs,
being able to telecommute to major urban
centers, if the right infrastructure was
Sam emphasized throughout his talk how
it is important that people let their representitives
know about their needs/want/desires ...
and he issued a challenge to RMIUG to try
and gets our reps on-line; pls see attachment
at the end.
He mentioned that 60% of high-paying jobs
in the next decade will be in or require
telecommunications. He gave several examples
of economic growth fueled by Telecomm. Most
notably was Bill Loopean who trades stocks
electronically ... in Durango! Bill has
hired several graduates from Ft. Lewis college
to help grow his business, and this has
further helped the local economy.
He talked about how the Internet can help
in Medicine (distance is irrelevent) and
Education (we are no longer campus bound).
The State has prepared a detailed report
on Telecomm ... but it's not available on-line!
Perhaps sometime in the future though; he
mentioned that ACLIN (an on-line repository
of Colorado information) recently received
$2.5 million dollars in funding.
He closed with a quote from Edward Teller
("father of the H-Bomb) who said the Telecom
is bigger than the atomic bomb - it empower's
people like the printing press ... for good
or for bad.
There was a lively question & answer question
between Sam and RMIUG'ers. Many people wanted
to know how to Email their state government,
but Sam pointed out that (basically) no
one is on-line yet. He also said that changing
infra-structure within state government
is very difficult and is a tough problem
(he did say he *does* read his Email, and
his last use of the Internet was to browse
to Louvre in Paris).
There was concerns about Government Leaders
& Corporate CEO's really understanding what
the Internet is about (Alek's summary earlier
about the NII echoed this), and one person
mentioned how he was frustrated with the
management at his company which operates
in a heavily regulated environment (BTW,
my hat is off to the gentleman who mades
the blunt (but true) comments about his
employer - big companies need more people
who are willing to speak out IMHO! ;-)
Sam is stepping down in a month, but he
explained the structure he left in place
to help continue Colorado's increased Telecom
use. It's a 4 phase program that starts
with Community involvment (such as RMIUG),
moves into a capability analysis, examines
regulation, and finally results in statewide
development (I skipped a few items in the
interests of conserving space).
Finally, there seemed to be agreement
that RMIUG wants our state reps to hear
our side, and we want to get (or at least
encourage) them to get on-line. Jeff Nieusma
(nieusma@InternetOne.com) and Dan
Murray have volunteered to coordinate -
pls see attached instructions.
In closing, Dan thanked Mr. Cassidy for
coming to talk with us and awarded him a
RMII sweater (well, that's close to RMIUG!
;-) He also conducted a prize drawing for
T-shirts, sweatshirts, a fax modem, software,
an Internet membership Kit, and several
books, compliments of Ed Bidinotto, Capella
Networking, Colorado Internet Co-Op, Rocky
Mountain Internet Inc., Compatible Systems,
Our next meeting will be Tuesday, January
10th and will be a panel discussion with
various Internet Providers represented.
Randy Holt (email@example.com) is coordinating
this meeting, so pls Email him if you have
RMIUG wishes to thank Internet One of
Boulder for sponsoring the refreshments,
NCAR for the use of their meeting room,
and XOR Network Engineering for electronic
"stuff". Note that more info is available
about RMIUG by sending an Email to firstname.lastname@example.org
Suggestions/comments/feedback are always
welcome - please email these to email@example.com,
or call Dan Murray at 447-3475.
Minutes Respectfully Submitted,
- Poindexter Grumulgut Yabovich the 3rd
Details about how to contact your
state reps - make a difference!!!
Jeff Nieusma (nieusma@InternetOne.com)
has setup an Email alias of "co-gov@InternetOne.COM"
which you can send an Email to and he will
then snail-mail this on a weekly basis.
Senders should put all name/address information
in the message body, just as with a business
letter. Be sure to mention that you want
your government to be on-line! RMIUG thanks
Internet One for their help in setting this
Dan Murray has suggested that we consider
writing directly to our representitives,
since it perhaps it carries more weight
if letters "look" different. It's probably
also a good idea to mention RMIUG, because
then it shows you have support of a group,
and they may possibily look to us for assistance,
Dan talked with Joan Albi, Secretary of
the Senate, and she said the two big "Kahuna's"
we should voice our thoughts/opinions to
are Tom Norton, President of the Senate,
and Chuck Berry, Speaker of the House of
Representatives. There is no FAX service,
but the snail-mail address is:
Tom Norton, President of the Senate, 257
State Capitol Bldg.
Chuck Berry, Speaker of the House of Representatives,
State Capitol Bldg.
(both are Denver, CO, 80203)
With your help, we can get every state
senator and representative online, and have
better access to them.
[Editorial Comment from Alek: The history
& growth of the Internet has been largly
fueled by so-called "grass-roots" efforts.
This is another opportunity for the common
man (and woman) to make a difference. I
encourage you to write in.]