RMIUG Meeting Minutes - Human Resources/Jobsearch
The November 14th meeting of the Rocky Mountain Internet User's group began
at 7:00 with Alek Komarnitsky as moderator.
(He actually used visibile slides this time!)
Several announcements from the floor were
- Rocky Mountain Internet, an Internet
Service Provider, has job openings. Those
interested send resumes to email@example.com.
- An announcement was made from the floor
that there is to be a seminar on "Revitalization"
on December 5th, but the minute taker
doesn't have additional information.
- Colin Cantwell of Votelink showed the
award they received for being the "Best
Interactive Site of the Year" from GNN.
The site is as http://www.votelink.com.
He announced they are interviewing for
experienced perl-UNIX hackers to expand
their site from 400 to 1200 HTML pages/week
by January. Contact him at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Votelink is also seeking internet-journalists
to create content for interactive voting.
Contact email@example.com or
- Pan Laughing Forrest (444-1987) is
a 4GL programmer and is looking for a
4th Dimension Virtual Interest Page.
- Marie Bowman announced the Internet
Chamber of Commerce meeting on the last
Wednesday of each month. The next meeting
will be November 29th at the Embassy Suites
at 18th and Curtis in Denver, starting
a 6 p.m.. The speaker will be from SGI
and discuss Virtual Reality.
- Also, added after the meeting was the
fact that a Denver-based company has a
position available requiring up to one
year of full time work for HTML programmer/web
page designer to upgrade and expand an
existing web site. Go to www.reio.com.
Send email with resume attached, list
locations of sites developed and salary
requirements to firstname.lastname@example.org.
- The RMIUG has a new library/book coordinator
in Carroll Blend, email@example.com
- There will be a Java Class taught at
Continuing Education at CU Boulder in
The Evening Panel discussion began with
Tonda Franklin from a Human Resources department,
She talked about some of the changing ways
systems are being used to help connect the
job seeker with jobs. Some examples she
- The New York Times has added PIN numbers
to job ads, so those job seekers who register
can have their resumes sent to interested
- Software systems like "Resumax" are
now being used by recruiters. The system,
running on UNIX, scans and OCRs incoming
fax and paper resumes and stores them
in a data base. Then human resource "requestors"
can scan the data base for key words.
Tonda said "Finding the right words on
a resume is critical".
- On the subject of resumes she noted
that with these electronic systems resumes
with no font switching, plain ASCII and
no underlining are preferred. The resume
should be in chronological order.
- She noted that companies are changing
how they advertise jobs and are starting
to put them on the Internet, particularly
hospitals. Some companies, though, view
the Internet approach as a novelty.
- Tonda referenced several URLs. They
are also included in the list at the end
of these minutes.
Shayn Smith (firstname.lastname@example.org)
from Career Planning at CU-Boulder presented
10 things for a good job search on the Internet:
- Have a career objective
- Develop a diversified approach including
the next 3
- Use "Networking" (non-Internet term)
including trade associations, user groups,
- Use a "direct approach" by contacting
employers directly. (Shayn noted tha most
jobs are not advertised.)
- Look at announced positions.
- Use the "Directory Search" on the World-wide-web
and do a keyword search.
- Examine Web sites.
- Join discussion groups. Employers look
for people who know what they are talking
- Create an "electronic" resume. He re-iterated
the caution to not use fonts, no underlining
and focus on content.
- Check out the Career information on
the Web, which includes Career Magazine,
tips on dressing, etc.
Shayn also distributed a list of URLs
which is included at the end of these minutes.
Dave Stover spoke as a person who acquired
a job using the Internet. He started out
by pointing to his gray hair and noting
"it slows you down in a job search!" Dave
recounted his search and the fact that he
found an opening through the Libnet list
server. He recommended joining list servers;
using the Web for job search listing, e.g.
Lykos; using the AOL job search functions;
having a well-honed digital resume and emphasising
"presentation, presentation, presentation".
Dave is (email@example.com).
The 3 panelists then answered questions
from the floor.
- "Are online resumes coming?"
- Yes - but will recruiters have time
to read them?
- "What fonts are best for OCRing?"
- Arial. A san-sarif font. Stay away
from italics and underlining.
- "Is email a good cover letter?"
- No. Use a standard cover letter in
your search. Do no put critical information
in email or a fax cover sheet.
- "Should we use job shop firms?"
- Yes. Use temporary agencies to get
your foot in the door. You will see more
of this over time.
- "Can anyone use the CU Career Center?"
- It's mainly for CU students, staff
and graduates. Some career resource, e.g.
its library are available for general
The meeting ended around 9:15. There were
approximately 110 attendees at the meeting.
Respectfully submitted by Art Smoot.
Shayn Smith's Handout of URLs and
JOB SEARCHING ON THE INTERNET
Selective List of Internet Addresses Compiled
by Career Services University of Colorado
CU-Boulder's Career Service's home page.
Look here for news on workshops, services,
and special events.
Boulder-based service providing job vacancy
searches, career articles, discussion groups,
employer information, and resume postings.
Job listings available for CU-Boulder students
and alumni. Use the password buff.
Especially useful here are salary surveys
(though primarily for technical positions).
Approximately 1000 positions in higher education
Non-profit organizations, some of which
Very large database of job listings including
coop, internships, and summer work.
Good place for entry-level positions
Educational resources and opportunities
are listed here, including graduate schools
Healthcare and biotech job listings
Job postings for business and finance
Vacancies announced for science and engineering
Federal job opportunities
A very good source of job leads; West Coast
Asia-related jobs are posted here
Russia and Eastern Europe employment and
Developed by the College of William & Mary.
Acts as a springboard to over 200 career
and employment links
Another popular job search site. East Coast
The Recruiter OnLine Network composed of
1000 executive recruiters, search firms
and employment professionals.
Information on salaries, compensation, benefits,
and business trends.
One of the best search engines; like a global
yellow pages for organizations, institution
One of the best collection of career/job
search resources on the internet.
The government's Occupational Outlook Handbook
with references to 300+ occupations, salaries,
44,000+ help wanted ads put on-line by six
Selected Bibliography: Job Searching On
Glossbrenner, Alfred and Emily (1995).
Finding A Job On The Internet. McGraw-Hill.
Gonyea, James C. (1995). The On-Line Job
Search Companion: A Complete Guide to Hundreds
of Career Planning and Job Hunting Resources
Available Via Your Computer. McGraw-Hill.
Jandt, Fred E. & Nemmich, Mary B. (1995).
Using The Internet In Your Job Search. JIST
Kennedy, Joyce Lain & Morrow, Thomas J.
(1995). Electronic Job Search Revolution:
How To Win the New Technology That's Reshaping
Today's Job Market. John Wiley & Sons.
Kennedy, Joyce Lain (1995). Hook Up, Get
Hired! The Internet Job Search Revolution.
John Wiley & Sons.
Kennedy, Joyce Lain (1995). Electronic
Resume Revolution: Creating A Winning Resume
for the New World of Job Seeking. John Wiley
Weddle, Peter D. (1995). Electronic Resumes
for the New Job Market: Resumes That Work
For You 24 Hours A Day. Impact Publications.